Guys , I have a very big problem in my flexibility !!!

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Guys , I have a very big problem in my flexibility !!!

Postby Muhammad » Aug 11, 2011 09:35

Hi everyone

I'm 16 years old , i weight 64 Kg , i'm a little bit tall ( 181 centimeters = 5.93832021 feet )

i can't improve my flexibility Though i stretch almost every day , The problem is that i stretch the muscles of my leg , every muscle , but when i sleep and i wake up , i find that my legs are not flexible like i didn't stretch all my life

the distance between my ankles when i do a middle split is 1.84 centimeters

what's the problem ???
is my age bad for stretching ??
am i not gonna do a full split ??

i past the flexibility test but when i do this test i feel pain in the bone (of the hip) as i said




Im sorry about my bad english
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Postby cailifo » Aug 12, 2011 23:19

Muhammad wrote:the distance between my ankles when i do a middle split is 1.84 centimeters


What are you, a Lego man? :shock:
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Postby Muhammad » Aug 13, 2011 11:09

cailifo wrote:
Muhammad wrote:the distance between my ankles when i do a middle split is 1.84 centimeters


What are you, a Lego man? :shock:


Hi friend

I'm sorry i meant 184 Cm -> 1.84 Mitre
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Postby Muhammad » Aug 13, 2011 19:12

Please someone awnser me
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Postby cailifo » Aug 14, 2011 02:00

Well, first of all your age is not the problem, especially at 16!

You say you stretch often, but with not much results. My first guess would be in regards to your stretching routine. Have you studied Kurz' method in his book and DVD?

It's not so much about what kind of stretches you do, or how much you stretch, but about your overall training routine- strength, flexibility, order of exercises and placement in your workout, etc..

Perhaps right a short detail of your typical workout routine for us to evaluate.
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Postby Muhammad » Aug 14, 2011 02:28

cailifo wrote:Well, first of all your age is not the problem, especially at 16!

You say you stretch often, but with not much results. My first guess would be in regards to your stretching routine. Have you studied Kurz' method in his book and DVD?

It's not so much about what kind of stretches you do, or how much you stretch, but about your overall training routine- strength, flexibility, order of exercises and placement in your workout, etc..

Perhaps right a short detail of your typical workout routine for us to evaluate.


Thank you Mr cailifo

unfortunately i live in Morocco so i can't buy the book ( Banks dont allow people to send money outside the country )

i stretch the hip flexors and the hamstrings and all legs muscles , this is what i do in my stretches :

the betterfly

i touch my toes with my hands ( of course my knees are straight ) untill i don't feel pain but later when i try to do this i feel the pain again like i never done it before

and many other things that my trainer teached us in kickboxing gym
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Postby Muhammad » Aug 23, 2011 14:20

Guys ???
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Postby dragon » Aug 24, 2011 04:13

Regardless of the stretching routine you're following,my guess would be it's a conditioning issue.

I know many people who have experienced the same as you describe and had it myself when i had a long lay off from training and then returned.....

The only way you're currently able to reach your maximal(at this time) flexibility range of motion is with lots of preperation-Warming up,lots of different stretches,etc......This allows you to ease into the stretch over the course of your workout....Then later on when you try and reach this position again,(i'm guessing without a full workout?)you can't.

More strength/conditioning will help you see an improvement....If you search this site you will find info on high rep lunges,squats,back extentions,leg raises,etc....

As for whether you will ever be able to achieve a full split.I'm afraid no-one will be able to tell you that over the internet...

Hope this helps,

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Postby Thomas Kurz » Aug 24, 2011 09:53

dragon wrote:
As for whether you will ever be able to achieve a full split.I'm afraid no-one will be able to tell you that over the internet...


http://www.stadion.com/catalog&test.html
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Postby dragon » Aug 24, 2011 14:01

Muhammad wrote:i past the flexibility test but when i do this test i feel pain in the bone (of the hip) as i said



Without knowing what is causing the pain in his hips,is it possible to guarantee he will be able to perform a full split?

Having the potential to do the splits now(based on a test),and the ability to actually do the splits in the future,are two seperate things.

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Postby Thomas Kurz » Aug 24, 2011 15:22

dragon wrote: Without knowing what is causing the pain in his hips,is it possible to guarantee he will be able to perform a full split?


Definitely not.

Assuming that one performs the test correctly, feeling pain while doing the test (even though hips and legs are in the "passing" position) means either reaching one's anatomical limitation of ROM or a chronic irritation of the involved structures from bad stretching. If that chronic irritation persists, a joint damage is likely to follow.
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Postby Muhammad » Aug 24, 2011 22:46

Thanks guys , that was really useful

can the doctor tell me if i can do a full split ?

could the doctor know if i have some hips problems or something ?

if as Mr.Kurz said "or a chronic irritation of the involved structures from bad stretching"

Can that be solved ?
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Postby dragon » Aug 26, 2011 08:23

Muhammad wrote:can the doctor tell me if i can do a full split ?

could the doctor know if i have some hips problems or something ?


Could a doctor tell you if you have hip problems?-Yes.

From a personal point of view,my opinion is people get too hung up on achieving the splits.It's great to be able to do if it's a goal of yours and it will help athletic ability.......

Will it answer all of your training problems though?Will it turn you into a great fighter/kicker as soon as you achieve the splits?....No.

So my point is,even if a doctor told you you'd never be able to do the splits,what would you do?..Give up training?....Train to be as good as you can be in all aspects.....If you can never do the splits,there are many other goals to achieve in your training.

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Postby Thomas Kurz » Aug 26, 2011 09:37

Muhammad wrote:can the doctor tell me if i can do a full split ?


Yes, if the the doctor remembers anatomy and is intelligent enough to relate that knowledge to your exercises.

Muhammad wrote:could the doctor know if i have some hips problems or something ?


Yes, unless the doctor is incompetent.

Muhammad wrote:if as Mr.Kurz said "or a chronic irritation of the involved structures from bad stretching"

Can that be solved ?


Yes--by ceasing to do whatever caused the irritation, for example, the wrong stretches.
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Postby Muhammad » Aug 26, 2011 16:31

Could a doctor tell you if you have hip problems?-Yes.

From a personal point of view,my opinion is people get too hung up on achieving the splits.It's great to be able to do if it's a goal of yours and it will help athletic ability.......

Will it answer all of your training problems though?Will it turn you into a great fighter/kicker as soon as you achieve the splits?....No.

So my point is,even if a doctor told you you'd never be able to do the splits,what would you do?..Give up training?....Train to be as good as you can be in all aspects.....If you can never do the splits,there are many other goals to achieve in your training.


You are right , I noticed that K-1 fighters rarely use high kicks !
thanks alot for you replies , They were helpful


Yes, if the the doctor remembers anatomy and is intelligent enough to relate that knowledge to your exercises.


Yes, unless the doctor is incompetent.


I'm gonna see a good doctor , thank you Mr.Kruz
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